Forklift Theology

Faith musings from the seat of a forklift.

Were you there?


Time to step outside the warehouse again. Why? Could be any number of reasons. Mostly, it is just a case of going home from a long day at work. I don’t know how far many of you must drive to get to and from work, but it is about sixteen minutes to get from work to my home. Why is that important? Likely it is because during those sixteen minutes, you can see a lot of different things.

A few months back, I was driving home from work, and there were police cars blocking my regular route. As I started to detour, I could see the reason for the blockage, a car on the local railway tracks. What happened? I don’t honestly know. I wasn’t there.

Many have heard and spoken of the “patience of Job”. Who was Job? He was one of the Old Testament patriarchs. His story is rather sad. Through a series of calamities, brought directly upon him by Satan, he had lost all he had. God has stayed his hand and prevented Satan from taking Job’s life, though his health was fair game. However, Job’s friends have been counseling him, yet they are all in the wrong. Likewise, Job’s wife wants nothing more than for her husband to curse God and die. Yet Job refuses. Frequently, he rebukes each and every one of them.

Before long, Job has lamented his situation, cursed the day of his birth, and pretty much confessed just about everything there is to confess. By the time we reached the thirty-eighth chapter, Job has finally stopped speaking for a moment. Now it’s God’s turn to speak. The first thing God asks is “Who is this that darkens counsel by words without knowledge?”. At the fourth verse, God uses a question to make a declaratory statement, that question is “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?”.

Let us stop and consider that question. Where was Job when God created the earth? He wasn’t. Before the creation of the heavens and the earth, only God was. This is only logical. None of us were here before God created the universe, thus we can not answer God’s question to Job anymore than Job could. Honestly, if God were to ask you where were you when he created the universe, you would have to concede that you weren’t there.

Historically, the only way to really know and understand an event is to look at it from the view of somebody who witnessed it. Let’s face it, I can’t tell you exactly what happened in Jerusalem back on the day of Pentecost, I wasn’t there. I have to accept what was written by Luke in the book of Acts. There is no reason to reject such testimony. I know some would argue that it was a fabrication, but would such a tale truly last this long without somebody spilling the beans? Seriously, most of the early disciples died a martyr’s death. You can’t honestly expect somebody to die for what they know is a lie. I have yet to see of such an event.

The historian, Eusebius, in his record of the church history, affirmed quite clearly that Peter, Paul, and Matthew were real people. He also affirmed, based upon the best evidence available in his era, that Christ Jesus truly did live, walk this earth, die upon a cross, and rise from the grave. Eusebius wasn’t willing to let people believe by way of blind faith. He wanted to ensure that people knew the facts as they were. Those facts haven’t changed. Written history has shown consistently that the Bible is true.

Wait! Can’t science prove that the universe is billions of billions of years old and the first book of the Bible is a lie? No. Just as Job wasn’t there, and you were not there, neither were the scientists who may make such claims. In fact, some of their own research often refutes their reasoning. Let me just give one such example.

With regards to the scientific realm, in February of 2013, Discover magazine featured an article regarding superflares. In it, they discussed what was known as the Carrington event, a solar flare in September of 1859 that caused near global havok. They also discussed a scientist who was trying to find a way to detect these. However, the science involved also displayed a problem in modern scientific thinking.

Problem? What problem? Accuracy of radiometric dating. The article noted that when testing with manganese-54, there was a marked drop in the decay rate concurrent with a solar flare. Discover didn’t focus on this, rather seeking to forge ahead with the concept of finding a way to detect solar flares before they happen. Why didn’t they address the decay rate change issue? Because it poses a serious problem for those who claim that radiometric testing is absolute. If decay rates are mutable, then radiometric dating is unreliable on anything that is not within a known age range.

Thus, science simply can not prove that which it can not see. Namely, radiometric dating can not prove that there has been millions, or billions, of years of time since the beginning of the universe. Note, this is just one known issue, there are several more, including unobservable assumptions regarding the initial decay rates, parent/daughter ratios, and the presumed age of the rocks in which the the tested material was found (yes, they actually try to give date the rocks without any real testing or evidence). If you were not there to see it, you really can not prove it without something written by somebody who did see it. We have nothing written that proves millions of years.

I admit, I would love to write something longer, and chase all the tangent topics of this issue. To my way of thinking, it would be pretty exciting. However, brevity is best. Beside, there is a possibility that a source I may think to use may prove inaccurate. Science has already proven it is willing to use an unreliable dating method in its desire to deny the creation account, as recorded in Genesis. All it is doing is using assertions, which can not be proven, but have often been disproven.

I didn’t see how that car ended up on the railway tracks. I wasn’t there. Scientists didn’t see the creation of the universe, they weren’t there. I can only speculate on how that car ended up where it did. Scientists speculate upon how our universe came into being, ignoring the one who created it.

Christ Jesus, the second person of the Trinity, when talking about Abraham’s faith with the priests and Pharisees, said “Before Abraham was, I am”. In doing so, he declared plainly that he was God, who created the universe we know today. It was he who, to paraphrase it, said to Job “were you there?”. Ultimately, the Bible is his account of the origin of the universe, and how he will put an end to sin, death and the works of Satan. It is he who did die upon the cross for the forgiveness of our sins, and rose again that we too would be resurrected on the last day.

It comes down to a simple question. Who do you trust? God who was there and was the creator of the universe? Or scientists who weren’t there, didn’t see it, can’t prove when it happened, and somehow believe that the universe is billions of years old, with no real proof? I will trust God’s word on this one. He was there, and he created it. Men tend to lie, God doesn’t.

Before you discuss the beginning of the universe, begin with this question:

Where were you?


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